New units sell Costco-style

Faced with looming loans, developers offer bulk deals February 02, 2009 04:20PM
Sponsors of 20 Pine Street put 80 unsold units on the market.


Not so long ago, many New York City developers modeled their sales efforts on stores like Barneys, marketing luxury wares to consumers with nary a half-off sticker in sight.

Nowadays, however, builders might be taking their cues from businesses like Costco.

Last month, the sponsors of 20 Pine, a 413-unit condo conversion in the Financial District, put 80 of the building's unsold units on the market for $63.7 million, according to the Web site Curbed.

The bulk price for the units, according to an advertisement reprinted on Curbed, represented only 51.5 percent of their current value of $124 million.
Meanwhile, 22 units in a 40-unit condo in Williamsburg also hit the market last month.

The sales pitch for the units at 349 Metropolitan Avenue included the following description: "Newly built 40-unit elevator building was developed as a luxury condominium and is being offered as a bulk sale for investors. Eighteen units are currently under contract at an average price per square foot of $720 and the developer can't close because the building is not finished. The developer is currently in default on his primary debt. Prospective purchasers can bid on the entire project and/or on the available units."

The above examples aren't the only ones. Faced with a stagnant market and looming loans, more and more developers are finding the notion of bulk condo sales attractive.

"When you can't sell retail, you sell wholesale," said Eric Anton, a principal at the investment services firm Eastern Consolidated.

Anton said early last month Eastern was working on a deal for the bulk sale of nearly 30 units in a Queens condo, where the prospective buyer was offering to purchase each of the units for a mere 50 percent of the last closed individual sale.

Anton noted that bulk sales are "ramping up" as loans become due. "You are going to see some banks force these deals," he noted. "They want their money."

From a lender's standpoint, bulk sales can be a "pragmatic" move, said Dan Fasulo, managing director of Real Capital Analytics, a research firm that focuses on the commercial market.

"The last thing a lender wants is to have the units back at this point," said Fasulo, who noted that attempts at bulk sales are beginning to be more commonplace. "How's the bank going to sell them?"

A developer's decision to try to bulk sell depends on a host of factors, including whether it makes sense for the developer to take a property rental or to wait out the downturn.

"It all depends on how much equity they have in the project," Fasulo said.

From a buyer's perspective, there's a lot to like about a bulk-condo purchase, according to Anton. "These are very straightforward deals," he said. "You can rent them or sell them and you have a management company already in place running the building. It's really easy."

Making the price tag attractive enough for prospective buyers in today's market may be the biggest challenge, said Naomi Shu, a senior associate at Marcus & Millichap who has worked on a number of bulk deals.

Shu has been marketing a package of six condos at a 10-unit, new-construction building near Union Square for several months, but she says the asking price the seller is looking for "isn't going to work."

Since there's "no condo market today unless you're talking about prime neighborhoods," Shu markets bulk deals nowadays in terms of the rental income they can generate for investors.

"I really have to look at the rental income," she said. "Investors have to do the numbers and say, 'What is the projected income?' It's like putting money in a CD — you get 3 to 4 percent — but many buyers want a much better return."

Other brokers note that uncertainty about the rental market gives some would-be investors pause.

"Some of the challenges are that in order to make the bulk sales work, one needs to know what the rental market will be in six, 12 and 24 months," said Ofer Cohen, the managing director of TerraCRG. Cohen was marketing 349 Metropolitan Avenue along with Peleg Neev, TerraCRG's director of distressed sales and syndications.

"We have represented a buyer in a bulk sale attempt of almost 100 units, the result of which will be known within a few weeks, which will give us some indication of where the market is," said Cohen.

"The reality, though, is that banks, developers and the market in general are in a wait-and-see mode, and that there are many components to the equation in order for the market as a whole to go in that direction."

Cohen added that many investors eyeing bulk buys are doing so with the intention of selling them as condos "if and when" the market rebounds.

"People are looking at it as a three- to five-year hold," he said. "They want to see return on the sale later. You cannot project these things.

"Everyone knows the rental market is weakening ... If the condo market comes back in four years, can they wait?"

Mark Zborovsky, who has specialized in bulk condo and co-op sales for more than two decades as the head of brokerage Mark Zborovsky & Company — he has been referred to in various media as "King of Blocks"— said such unknowns mean there aren't a huge number of new-construction bulk deals happening at the moment.

"At least for now, I don't see many deals happening," he said. "In many cases there is a price under which a developer cannot sell."

Zborovsky noted that while he was "very quietly" marketing the sale of two bulk packages at luxury condos in Manhattan and Queens, "I don't hold my breath, because the price they need to sell for is higher than what people are willing to buy for."

Zborovsky also noted that bulk sales are common in Florida, where the market is a "complete disaster," even for experienced developers.

"We didn't have an overbuilding like Florida. It's so difficult to buy a piece of land and get a permit here," he said.

"People who obtained a lot of financing are in trouble, but many New York developers are very experienced and very wealthy."

Zborovsky and other brokers said a wave of bulk sales in the city isn't unprecedented and was, in fact, a major trend during the market downturn of the early '90s.

"After the market stopped in the early '90s you had buildings all over the city that were only 50 percent co-op," said Fasulo of Real Capital Analytics. So many of the sponsors were stuck with blocks of units that some, he noted, sought to sell in bulk.

Zborovsky said that today's market is relatively good compared to the conditions that caused en-masse sales nearly two decades ago.

"In the '90s, the market went down so much that there were 80 and 90 percent discounts," said Zborovsky. "Right now, the market is bad but it's not a disaster.

"Back then, you could buy for pennies on the dollar. That was the market at its lowest. We're not in the same market."

For the time being, commercial brokers say that most bulk deals are "off market," or hush-hush. "You wouldn't want to go out to the world and say, 'Hey, I'm selling at a discount,'" said TerraCRG's Cohen.

Beyond that, "you don't want people to know that you're in trouble and can't pay your loans," said Fasulo.

Nevertheless, brokers say that bulk sales aren't necessarily a sign that a developer is waving the white flag.

"I don't think it's about desperation," said Cohen. "It depends where your bank is in the mix. The bigger guys are holding, at least for now.

"It's about, 'Are we in the management business? If not, do we want to just move on?'"




Comments

Anonymous

Interesting article on the growing trend of bulk sales. Again, with the exception of the sale at 20 Pine (whose sale hasn't actually officially been confirmed) all of the properties mentioned by name are non-Manhattan properties.

Comment #1 Posted By: Anonymous 02/03/09

Anonymous

These bulk deals suck....! Stay away...been there, done that.

Comment #2 Posted By: Anonymous 02/04/09

Anonymous

#1 exactly! If 20 Pine was half price it would have already sold. Good thing these writers use tips instead of facts or they would be out of work.

Comment #3 Posted By: Anonymous 02/04/09

Anonymous

20 pine is on sale. with an asking of 675/ft,.

Comment #4 Posted By: Anonymous 02/04/09

Anonymous

#4 must be another writer

Comment #5 Posted By: Anonymous 02/04/09

Anonymous

Unfortunately, credit conditions for the regional banks - the largest or most concentrated lenders to the developers - are changing (literally) overnight. I think Mr. Zborovsky is about to get a wake-up call regarding his assessment.

Comment #6 Posted By: Anonymous 02/05/09

Claudio Barbero-Montagna

The developer of 20 Pine is holding 227k (15%) of our deposit on the $1,510,000 condo we bought March/06. Before committing ourselves totally to the purchase, we used the recession period and secured financing with Liberty Pointe Bank (we were sent there by the sale's people). At closing time, July/08 Liberty Pointe Bank told us they had lost our file and even if they had had it, they were not able to keep up to their commitment of financing. CONFLICT OF INTEREST: We found out Liberty Point Bank is owned by the developer of 20 Pine. We have tried very hard to obtain financing to close on the property unsuccessfully. At this point, we just want our deposit back and put this nightmare away. Suggestions?.

Comment #7 Posted By: Claudio Barbero-Montagna 02/06/09

Anonymous

When it is a broker's prospective, it is always the positives. Sellers are going to have to get realistic about price -- or it will be the banks selling their foreclosed units in bulk. There will be some opportunities once the banks force these units into private hands.

Comment #8 Posted By: Anonymous 02/06/09

Anonymous

20 pine will sell for $ 400 sq feet one day.

Comment #9 Posted By: Anonymous 02/11/09

Anonymous

#9: You wish! Looks like you'll have to stay in your Mom's basement a lot longer.

Comment #10 Posted By: Anonymous 02/14/09

Anonymous

#8 broker here: how is it positive to say that buildings are selling in bulk? reading comprehension? every single report that is released by every single firm in this city has said that sale prices are down and that it's a buyer's market. granted there are still those that are going for ask or above ask, but very rare. For the non-expert in this industry w/o access to what we have access too you can find those specific deals and the prices they've gone for in Thursdays NYPOST real estate section. Greg Hym, Sam Miller etc.. have been saying that it's a buyer's market. Former is the chief economist for halstead and Brown Harris Stevens, latter an appraiser whose reports are used widely in the industry and always referred to in the media. Whenever a story is done on the housing market in NYC their reports are used. They are also often interviewed on MSNBC, CNN etc.. As you know the media has been negative about the housing market so not sure where you're getting your info. You seem a bit contradicting. Please read a little more before you make such a ludicrous statement.

Comment #11 Posted By: Anonymous 02/19/09

Anonymous

#8 continued from above...Further sellers need to be realistic not brokers. Our info is out there for everyone to read. we are constantly arguing with sellers to lower their prices. It's not us it's you who are emotionally attached to your apartments and can't see that they aren't worth as much. many brokers are even walking away from listings that they know won't sell b/c it's a waste of our time and money. Anyway, as an investor myself i always stay away from new developments. Not the best investments in general.

Comment #12 Posted By: Anonymous 02/19/09

Anonymous

the developer at 349 Metropolitan Avenue can only dream about selling his units in bulk... this building is unfinished and will not be finished in a long time. The developer has screwed up all sub contractors on the job and there are numerous liens on the building- shame! We have purchased a condo unit and now taking the developer to court t oget our money back.... Others beware!!!

Comment #13 Posted By: Anonymous 02/19/09

Anonymous

There are many units in Manhattan that will be selling for a LOT less six months from now. I know people who signed contracts at Soho Mews and One Jackson Square who are prepared to walk away from their deposits because the apartments that they contracted to buy a year ago are worth 40-50 percent less than the "asking" prices today. It didn't help that the idiot developers actually raised prices on these units in August--after Bear Stearns and in the midst of the beginning of the end of the financial services industry in NYC.

Comment #14 Posted By: Anonymous 02/24/09

Anonymous

I pity the poor people who signed contracts at some of these new developments, because they now have to close on apartments that cannot be re-sold for what they paid. After the initial round of closings, the developers will be forced to lower their prices to move the rest of the units....they are just waiting for the units in contract to close at the higher prices. Then the prices will be dropped and the people who closed will be screwed.

Comment #15 Posted By: Anonymous 02/24/09

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