Power shifts to buyers

Era of overpriced listings over, brokers say March 04, 2008 08:21PM


It has been a while, but Manhattan home buyers seem to be getting the upper hand, with prices starting to soften and qualified buyers taking their time to shop around.

"I think the time of overpriced listings is gone for now," said Lawrence Rich, vice president and associate broker at Prudential Douglas Elliman. "For the first time in a long time, buyers have been able to negotiate a bit."

The room to negotiate coupled with lower interest rates are making for "favorable conditions" for buyers, he said. "The negative," he noted, "is that getting financing is more difficult."

Other pros like Steven Ganz, a broker and executive vice president at CORE Group Marketing, had a similar assessment.

"Across the board we are seeing a slight slowdown in sales volume and velocity, leaving sellers and developers to lower prices slightly to make deals," Ganz said.

Sales slipped noticeably in January from December, according to the most recent research available from Gregory Heym, executive vice president and chief economist for Terra Holdings, parent company of Brown Harris Stevens and Halstead Property. There were 697 sales in January in Manhattan, a 10.5 decline from December's 779.

At the same time, the median sales price of Manhattan condo, co-op and cond-op apartments dropped in January from the month prior to $850,000 from $928,378 — a 9.2 percent change, Heym determined.

Heym did not put much weight into the month-to-month change.

"I don't think there's any specific reason why the median price fell from December to January," Heym said. "Monthly data can fluctuate a lot, and I think it's more a function of December's numbers being abnormally high than the January numbers falling."

But, the data seems to reflect some level of uncertainty among buyers who are still in a holding pattern following the credit crisis.

"Buyers in banking-related industries are skittish, as they are having market-related fallout within their industry," CORE's Ganz said. "They constitute a good sized chunk of New York buyers, and they are telling each other to wait to buy, that the New York City real estate market will fall significantly."

Although a number of brokers say that there remains a dearth of property available, a market slowdown was evident in the growing Manhattan inventory, which reached the highest level since April 2007.

Inventory rose in January from December by 9.4 percent to 5,926 condo and co-op units and townhouses on the market, the most current research from Jonathan Miller, executive vice president and director of research for Radar Logic, shows. Co-ops saw the greatest increase between December and January at 16.5 percent, to 2,626 in January from 2,254 in December. Condos dropped 4.1 percent and townhouses 1.1 percent.

Like Heym, Miller did not find the numbers remarkable.

"Co-ops increased [more] because they are nearly all resales and it is expected to see more units come on the market after the New Year in anticipation of the spring market," Miller said. "Condos include a large portion of new development, and those units are less responsive to seasons — they come on the market as they are ready to be sold. Townhouses are such a small sector, the stat may or may not reveal anything."

A weakening was evident in the rental market. Rents continued to go up in January from December, but at a much slower pace than between November and December. January rents averaged $3,221 a month, $1.50 more than December's $3,219.50, data from Citi Habitats indicate. Between November and December, the jump was $5.25.

Some real estate pros speculate that the sales market does not look much more promising in March.

"I think that prices will remain level with recent comps or drop slightly, not dramatically. Properties will remain on the market longer, and the amount of transactions will decrease somewhat," Ganz of Core said.

Radar Logic's Miller said he expects the seasonal increase of inventory through April to be compounded by the influence of the credit market.

"In light of the credit situation and its restraint on transaction activity, it would be reasonable to expect lower sales growth through the spring as well as a faster rise in inventory," he said.

Meanwhile, some brokers said that the slowing market is helping their business.

"The prices are still flat, and most asking prices are proving somewhat negotiable for the most qualified buyers," said Ann Ferguson, managing director at Klara Madlin Real Estate. "Sales and rental volume is beginning to pick up from January, which was very quiet."


Keeping or losing faith?

Many residential real estate brokers, developers and marketers are saying that Manhattan has been impervious to the credit crisis, while others cite its effects on the market. In a survey The Real Deal sent out last month to people in the field, real estate pros expressed varying levels of confidence in the market.


Dan August Cordeiro senior managing director, Corcoran Sunshine Marketing Group
I expect that new buyers that started looking at property in January, but were skeptical or waiting for prices to fall, will start to lose out on property they are interested in, creating a sense of urgency and getting them to purchase in March and April.

Jessica Armstead vice president and associate broker, the Corcoran Group
Recently, there have been increasing resales in new developments. If you bought in a development with 200-plus units and 15 units are on the market, you will most likely find yourself negotiating in order to make the sale.

Michael Signet director of sales, Bond New York
I thought that we might see a bit of [price weakening] at the end of 2007, but once the bonus money hit the streets and buyers realized that the credit crunch was not that relevant here in Manhattan, any thoughts of a weakening market disappeared.

Jeff Krantz vice president of sales and marketing, City Connections Realty
Developments that are near completion [are faring best this month]. Buyers aren't feeling the pressure to buy off of a piece of paper because they don't believe prices are going to skyrocket from this month to [the] next.

Barak Dunayer president, Barak Realty
This month, I expect to see generally healthy activity but not explosive growth. Sales volume: 5 to 10 percent less; prices: flat; days on market: up 10 percent.

Kenneth Horn president, Alchemy Properties
Buyers are 'shopping' more, and they are coming back to look at units two or three times before they actually buy. The process now takes about two to three weeks as opposed to two or three days.

Sang Oh director of sales and marketing, Platinum Properties
Buyers are hesitant to sign off on an apartment, and sellers are reluctant to accept lower offers. Those that are actively in the market now can get some good deals from both developers and resales.

Rochelle Bass executive vice president, Bellmarc Realty
Buyers are on the fence waiting to see if prices will come down because of the credit market crisis. It is mostly in the under $3 million market. [But] I do not see a decline in price.


Comments

Anonymous

When you hear comments like "credit crunch was not that relvevant here"- its hard to take the article seriously. Do you guys have any idea whats going on on wall street- the largest source of income for Manahattan? Next time, can you please interview an insider without an agenda?

Comment #1 Posted By: Anonymous 03/05/08

Anonymous

hate to break it to the naysayers but the market actually hasnt dropped... january was better than last january, february was better than last february, 2007 bonuses were as good at 2006... shh... dont tell anyone trying to sell a newspaper...

Comment #2 Posted By: Anonymous 03/05/08

Anonymous

Remember everybody, the credit crunch was started by Wall Street. Bonuses may be back to 02 levels at this pace. What was the avg price per sq ft in 02?

Comment #3 Posted By: Anonymous 03/05/08

Anonymous

02 was around $650 per sf for a two bedroom condo.

Comment #4 Posted By: Anonymous 03/06/08

Anonymous

When those massive bonuses hit NYC the hot dog salesmen will have a field day! Apparently the only ones getting anything decent are the Goldman guys. The rest, if they are getting bonuses, are getting a very large proportion in shares...mmm, banks shares, just what you want in your stocking this Christmas...Not!

Comment #5 Posted By: Anonymous 03/06/08

The CAT

Manhattan is very overrated and overpriced. It's a better quality of life living in Queens!!! Time for the dominoes to fall, hopefully Manhattan will take a huge hit as it's due and well deserved since one of the largest price bubbles exist here.

Comment #6 Posted By: The CAT 03/06/08

Shelley Rankin

In New York City, the demographic trend of the late 20th Century, referred to as "white flight", has reversed. Suburbs thrived with the arrival of multi-lane highways, but dual income households place an extraordinary premium on proximity to the workplace today. Across age segments, people are trending back into the City, and pushing Manhattan's boundary into waterfront Brooklyn and 125th Street. Coupled with foreign money buying Manhattan at wholesale prices, the City is the only residential real estate market that remains robust.

Comment #7 Posted By: Shelley Rankin 03/15/08

Why ever listen to what a broker says?

Shelley Rankin, you are what again? Oh that's right, a BROKER!! So, is the above what you tell all prospective buyers? Remind me not to read anything you post. Let's see, inventory is climbing rapidly. Everybody I know on Wall Street (where I work) says it's the worst environment they have ever seen. That's EVER seen, worse than 1998, 2002, 1991. Take your pick. Just spoke to my buddies at Bear yesterday. I don't think they're in the market for coops and condos anymore.

Comment #8 Posted By: Why ever listen to what a broker says? 03/15/08

Anonymous

I think all these brokers are in a state of denial and are feeding their false optimism to the sellers they represent. Real estate (even in Manhattan) operates like any other market. When there are fewer buyers (or more buyers are holding-off), growing inventory, and a more difficult buying environment (tighter lending standards) prices will have to adjust. Just as there was competition among buyers for in-demand apartments during the boom, we will soon see competition among sellers/developers for buyers (in terms of concessions like free maintenance/common charges or closing costs). Remember that developers would rather give away freebies while recording a high sales-price rather than simply sell at a lower price. But if you don't ask for concessions, you won't get them!

Comment #9 Posted By: Anonymous 03/16/08

Shelley Rankin

Well priced property continues selling. The cash rich are buying. Plenty are present. Buyers hadn’t, and aren’t, overleveraging their homes in Manhattan, thanks to coop boards. Manhattan property did much better than CDOs and other mortgage backed vehicles. People are drawn to safety right now.

Comment #10 Posted By: Shelley Rankin 03/18/08

Anonymous

I am a prospective buyer and went to a number of open houses this past weekend. I saw four apartments and two of them (one is a prestigious coop building and one in a fairly nice condo building) had cut their offering prices significantly from when they went on the market. The other two condos (both new developments) in Chelsea I saw, the brokers seemed quite eager to make a deal and were throwing in lots of extras. Given current market conditions and the fact that I work in the financial sector, I am going to wait to buy something. And given the conversations I have had with others in the business, many who work on Wall Street and many who work in related industries all are very worried and aren't going to be jumping very quickly into the manhattan real estate market. And there is is likley more bad news to come.

Comment #11 Posted By: Anonymous 03/18/08

Anonymous

The only people I know talking up the Manhattan real estate markets are brokers. And at this point, the honest brokers have stopped talking it up.

Comment #12 Posted By: Anonymous 03/19/08

Anonymous2

Hey Anonymous... Which hedge fund are you with

Comment #13 Posted By: Anonymous2 03/19/08

Shelley Rankin

The people who want the Manhattan market to soften are often the most vocal. Many would rush in to buy if prices dip. Manhattan prices are sticky coming down though. People will hold rather than sell, because they can, they aren't overleveraged. Those who can generate rental income, will because rental vacancy rates remain historically low. Sales transaction volume may drop, but Manhattan continues to represent safety, as a long term hold, in uncertain times.

Comment #14 Posted By: Shelley Rankin 03/27/08

Anonymous

By what % did the # of NYC real estate agents increase over the past 5 years? When market conditions normalize, how many will lose their jobs and/or leave the industry due to inadequate compensation potential? It seems like this will be the next news story we'll be reading about. But if these people can't sell real estate into a hot market, what are they qualified to do?

Comment #15 Posted By: Anonymous 03/30/08

Anonymous

We've seen this movie before. 2 years ago, the Florida market was filled with "Shelley Rankin's." A legion of real estate agents/spin-meisters--constantly bullish and plenty of incentive to be bullish. History may not repeat...but it often will rhyme. Financial market bubbles never end cleanly with a whimper. Unfortunately, they explode with a bang...creating shock and awe for everyone involved. Perhaps this time will be different? The odds are against it...

Comment #16 Posted By: Anonymous 03/30/08

Shelley Rankin

I was just in Miami. The scale of vacant apartments in Miami dwarfs that of Manhattan. Multiply the number of available apartments in Manhattan by 10. Since my last post, I've sold condos to several foreigners, working in Manhattan, who were wise to convert their Euros to dollars. They feel safe in their Manhattan condo investments. They're not going to disappear, they make a sensible long term investment, and if they need to, they can rent them. But they don't need to. They aren't overleveraged.

Comment #17 Posted By: Shelley Rankin 09/19/08

FREDERICK APPIAH-KUSI

how is the buyers power in ghana where rent control policies are not working?

Comment #18 Posted By: FREDERICK APPIAH-KUSI 02/24/09

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