Wall Street bonus outlook could be worse

November 06, 2008 02:53PM


A report predicting that Wall Street bonuses are expected to fall dramatically this year was no surprise to real estate professionals, who have been bracing for a corresponding drop in sales.

In fact, the report came as positive news to some brokers, who said they expected Wall Street bonuses to virtually disappear.

"Most people have anticipated no bonuses," said Leonard Steinberg, an executive vice president at Prudential Douglas Elliman. "I would imagine brokers are going to be shocked that bonuses are getting paid at all."

The report, released today by New York-based compensation consulting firm Johnson Associates, predicted that senior managers on Wall Street can expect their year-end incentives to plunge by up to 70 percent from last year. Average bonuses on Wall Street are expected to decline by an average of 20 to 35 percent this year compared to last year, the report said, while investment bankers and fixed income professionals will be hit hard, with their bonuses expected to drop by up to 45 percent.

While the outlook is grim,  it could have been worse, according to Alan Johnson, managing director of Johnson Associates. "Those professionals who were fortunate enough to keep their jobs will see the fallout when they get their year-end bonuses," he said. "However, thanks in part to the financial bailouts and mergers we've seen recently, the decline in incentive payments won't be as drastic as first thought."

The projected bonus figures "sound like more money than I would have expected, given all the anti-Wall Street sentiment out there," said broker Dolly Lenz, a vice chairman at Elliman.

She said most real estate professionals have already seen the impact of the expected decreases in bonuses in the form of a slowdown in sales, though there is still some activity.

"I signed three contracts today," she said, "but maybe it would have been six [before the financial crisis]. A lot of people are taking a wait-and-see attitude."

Yearly, Wall Street bonuses have close ties to the success of the New York City real estate market, according to Jonathan Miller, the president of appraisal firm Miller Samuel.

"The industry does see a surge in demand in the first half of the year and that demand correlates with whether bonuses are higher or lower than previous years," he said.

But the part of the report that was most surprising is that top-level management saw the sharpest decreases.

"It may impact the very high end," Elliman's Lenz said. "Those people are all trade-ups. It's a choice you don't have to make. You can stay in your 10-room apartment -- you don't need to move to a 14-room apartment."

Andrew Gerringer, managing director of Elliman's development marketing group, said job losses could pose more of a threat than reduced bonuses.

"I am more concerned about jobs than I am the bonuses," he said. "If people still have jobs, they have to live somewhere. But if you don't have a job, you're not going to get approved for a mortgage."


Comments

Anonymous

Dear dolly if you will pick up your phone and return calls you will sell more the 6 apt (even in this market ) i left you 5 massges this year for 3 apt you have on the market for more the a year never heard back from you (over 10 mil asking price)

Comment #1 Posted By: Anonymous 11/06/08

Anonymous

Dear Ms. Lenz, You are already getting 90% commission from your firm, wouldn't it make sense to co-broke some of your listings, so you could churn more volume?

Comment #2 Posted By: Anonymous 11/06/08

Anonymous

"I signed three contracts today," she said, "but maybe it would have been six" Please - more broker speak - if your team really did sign 3 contracts today that must mean they didn't sign any the rest of the week and it means that 2 of your 3 buyers are going to back out when they realize they can't get a loan.

Comment #3 Posted By: Anonymous 11/06/08

Anonymous

I don't understand why any of the wall streeters get bonuses when the main streeters are bailing them out. They privatized their assets and nationalized their debts and they are getting bonuses? This is perverse. There should be no bonuses until their debts to the nation are paid off. That should provide an incentive to pay us back!

Comment #4 Posted By: Anonymous 11/06/08

Anonymous

Dolly Lenz? She is a former accountant from the Bronx who has turned into one of the most notorious violators of fiduciary obligations in NYC real estate. She is nothing but a cheap corner girl working for a corporate pimp. She does have a razor sharp memory...let's give her credit for the one skill she does truly possess.

Comment #5 Posted By: Anonymous 11/07/08

Anonymous

Sharp Memory = good head.

Comment #6 Posted By: Anonymous 11/07/08

Anonymous

I'm not hating on Dolly Lenz success, more power to her but her jaw must hurt from all the late night meetings, obtaining those 9 digit exclusives. I've bumped into before at a gala & she thought she was the best thing walking, with her crooked ethics! The majority of brokers are in it for just the money & don't care about the client, she is one of them!!!

Comment #7 Posted By: Anonymous 11/10/08

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