The Real Deal New York

Robert A.M. Stern talks “poor doors” and de Blasio

The starchitect offers some housing advice to the mayor
April 05, 2015 12:00PM

Robert A.M. Stern, dean of the Yale School of Architecture, has designed some of the most exclusive buildings in – or coming to – New York City. Having designed 15 Central Park West, as well as a trio of super tall towers – 520 Park Avenue, 30 Park Place and 220 Central Park South – the 75-year-old architect gave the New York Post his two cents on class divides, “poor doors” and housing policy.

Asked what he thought of the loss of mixed-income building and the “current mutation to a rich door/poor dynamic,” Stern said, “It’s one of the most complicated problems we have to solve.”

Pressed on his opinion of the notorious “poor door,” Stern shrugged. “If they have a nice apartment and they can afford it and it is a safe building that’s well managed, they don’t have to enter the same lobby. I have no problem if they come in the same lobby with me either.”

As for Mayor Bill de Blasio, Stern remains suspicious:

“I think the mayor is a very well-intentioned man in many respects. Sometimes, I think his intentions are naively realized. […] We have these housing projects all over the city which were the best in the world when they were built in the 1930s to the ’50s, but they did isolate low-income people away from the city and certainly away from people of other income groups. […] I’m very suspicious of the efficacy of these ideas.” [NYP]Christopher Cameron

  • Realest Minority

    poor door is just a new form of racist

    • Lordyuyu

      no its not. its bad taste, but not racist

      • so its stated

        bad taste, like racism is in the eye of the beholder…

        be that at is may IMO the “alternate entrance” which would keep things in “better taste” its rightfully justified as a jab to the local gov’t for forcing low income housing on FOR PROFIT DEVELOPERS. NYC has all of the money and eminent domain laws they need to build more housing if they so choose to however they too are a greedy business machine and want to force it on others to do their dirty work.

        • Lordyuyu

          true

      • Realest Minority

        shut up

    • Marc

      There is no bigger “racist” than the moron who cries the slogan all the time.
      Is it only “racist” when blacks & Hispanics use that door? It’s not “racist” when a poor white uses it? This whole issue is stupid beyond belief.

      • Realest Minority

        you can play the stupid card all you want we all know why the poor door exist in the first place god forbid the high rollers interact with the minority’s

        • Marc

          If I based everything on race like you do then I’d be a racist like you and “understand” what you think you do. “Play the stupid card”???? What a sad and angry fool you are.

          • Realest Minority

            only a imbecile yourself thinks poor doors are ok in 2015

          • Marc

            So you pick a fight with everyone that writes something you’re opposed to. Another angry childless commie. Suicide is encouraged among your kind. Little wonder.

          • Realest Minority

            you need prayer for you to even compare the fact of me disagreeing with stupidly with suicide tells me ALL i need to know about type of dummy you are….

  • ScottAguiar

    Poor doors aren’t racist. They keep those who did not pay for the luxury amenities from entering the building from those who did. Why should someone who paid $5 or 10 million bucks share the same entrance with those who are subsidized by those same residence? Developers offer these units in order to get the city’s approval for the luxury building itself. It is what it is… so get over it. If the city or activist groups are so concerned… let them build more housing themselves with their own money and then they can set their own rules.

    • Sam Andrews

      Exactly. People who say that poor doors are racist are the ones who are being racist by implying that a certain “race” is poor. The simple fact is if people pay the same monthly they get the same services no matter what race they are. If they don’t pay the same monthlies to provide those services they don’t get the same services.

      • Realest Minority

        did you’re mom drop you as child or are you born stupid ? how can you be in favor of anything called a poor door

    • Monica McLaughlin

      Why shouldn’t all people be able to use the same entrance? If you pay for the gym, you go to the gym. If you don’t pay for the gym, you don’t go to the gym. That is a separate issue.

      • Realest Minority

        scott is a racist

    • Realest Minority

      you are so rascit and stupid they should smack you for being an imbecile

    • NYC

      Yes, why don’t we do this with everything. Let’s have separate entrances for restaurants and stores. Maybe we can require people to show their income tax return and keep them out of stores all together if they don’t make enough money. /sarcasm

  • NYCFLIPPER

    There wasn’t a poor door until these reporters label it and stir up the pot. If people are happy with the separate entrance why bothers. If they want to use the amenities then pay up just like a Gym membership. Everything comes with a price.

    • Realest Minority

      shut up

      • NYCFLIPPER

        You r one of the reasons they create The Poor door.

        • Realest Minority

          last time i checked i can disagree with stupidity its ok you like the poor door that’s all i need to know about you’re racist a*ss

          • NYCFLIPPER

            And this confirmed that You Are A Ghetto

          • Realest Minority

            the people know you’re true colors that’s all that matters in the long run

  • ralphpetrillo

    Wow an architect that supports separating income classes. He must want to appease his client base.

  • Gren NY

    Regardless of the poor door controversy, Sterno is right about the LIC yards. You need an intense level of density to just break even. Still, I think Sterno has more important things to deal with in NYC and Connecticut. Suzanne Jovin’s family is still waiting

    • Velvet

      Plattus + Princeton + Jovin. 15 years and counting

  • NYCFLIPPER

    this is what happens when you give some one a piece of pie, now they want the whole pie.

    • Realest Minority

      STFU

      • NYCFLIPPER

        You act like a minority

        • Realest Minority

          and you’re mom does flips

  • Realest Minority

    amazing that in 2015 well allow anything close to a poor door well have dummy’s in the comment section who thinks ok i guess that tells me all i need to know lol

    • realREalist

      get a job and you won’t have to use a poor door yourself loser!

      • Realest Minority

        all you are is a computer baby hiding be-hide a keyboard

    • Officer Darren Wilson

      go take your michael brown civil rights behind back to the front lines and picket in Ferguson; we don’t need you trolling on a real estate website in which you don’t belong playing the race card

      • Realest Minority

        the poor door is a fact !! you my friend are the troll remember the people see what you write that’s all i need….